tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post7087732178582552990..comments2023-12-28T13:11:06.666+00:00Comments on Pics and Poems: Seven Jewish ChildrenDave Kinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-70650224922387657432009-05-01T18:18:00.000+01:002009-05-01T18:18:00.000+01:00I have to admit I am normally not one to sit throu...I have to admit I am normally not one to sit through a long long post but I read every line of this one long as it was. I am filled with emotions right now, thanks for the post. <br /><br />I stayed in Israel when I was a child and have heard stories from my father on all these but this post I feel, is far more thought provoking that watching the news or any documentary made about it.<br /><br />Would be brought to tears if I actually heard this performed in theater. <br /><br />Good One, Dave :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-29873697241891674792009-05-01T17:26:00.000+01:002009-05-01T17:26:00.000+01:00Tortuous poem, Dave, the first part is masterful, ...Tortuous poem, Dave, the first part is masterful, minimalist suspense that drives home the stark reality of brutality.<br /><br />The seeming inescapable quality of war and turmoil and persecution. Passes on from generation to generation. One trying to cover up the past the other trying to overcome it the other trying to right it the other going to war with it. <br /><br />I felt the futility in this, was this your intention? The seeming spirall of telling and not telling, confirming the cycle once more. <br /><br />Very, very interesting poem, I will return too it.McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095242258892600138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-52187439180613640922009-04-29T16:16:00.000+01:002009-04-29T16:16:00.000+01:00The horror of war and genocide belongs to children...The horror of war and genocide belongs to children everywhere, whose parents and grandparents were marched to the slaughter or blown apart by bullets and bombs. <br /><br />Thanks for sharing this very powerful piece of writing with us. To kill in the name of religion or ethnicity is the most vile of crimes. One day we will all learn how to coexist.Lynda Lehmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10914824862008453219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-25128773548643993332009-04-29T14:41:00.000+01:002009-04-29T14:41:00.000+01:00CaroleI have to agree with you, not your friend. T...<B>Carole</B>I have to agree with you, not your friend. Thanks for clearing that up.<br /><br /><B>Cloudia </B>Some might say condemnationis the whole of the problem.<br />Thanks for that.<br /><br /><B>Fantastic Forrest </B>I'm afraid I don't know Carrie's play. I shall look it up. Thanks for the steer.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-81800508000710591902009-04-29T02:22:00.000+01:002009-04-29T02:22:00.000+01:00Dave,
My book group was just talking about findin...Dave,<br /><br />My book group was just talking about finding a work which addresses this conflict.<br /><br />This is a powerful piece.<br /><br />Are you familiar with the play My Name is Rachel Corrie? I've wanted to see it for some time now. http://www.amazon.com/My-Name-Rachel-Corrie/dp/1559362960Fantastic Forresthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08044290192610027408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-29357214338605583302009-04-29T02:19:00.000+01:002009-04-29T02:19:00.000+01:00Thanks for caring about ALL people, all children, ...Thanks for caring about ALL people, all children, Dave.<br />Bless you. Condemnation is part of the problem <br />AlohaCloudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05853753108637831069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-146526121716038852009-04-28T18:07:00.000+01:002009-04-28T18:07:00.000+01:00Dave, I just thought I didn't make it clear about ...Dave, I just thought I didn't make it clear about needing to hear all the voices.<br /><br />I have a friend who supports the campaign to return the Jews to Jerusalem/Israel. To me this is foolhardy as it just adds to the already insoluble problems.carolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020421002889991849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-4918726487241893882009-04-28T09:02:00.000+01:002009-04-28T09:02:00.000+01:00BarbaraGood to hear from you again - I have also b...<B>Barbara</B>Good to hear from you again - I have also been meaning to drop in on you! - and very many thanks for the encouraging comments.<br /><br /><B>Madame DeFarge</B>Yes, it's difficult to untangle all the strings of violence making the situation so extreme, but I think this play gets as close as maybe.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-43950323946304244212009-04-27T20:52:00.000+01:002009-04-27T20:52:00.000+01:00Dave - this is so powerful. i'm not familiar with ...Dave - this is so powerful. i'm not familiar with the play, so this is an eye-opener for me. And yes, I agree that it's not anti one thing or another, just highlighting what it must be like for so many people across the world.Madame DeFargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08172239340844485940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-81113428983865942752009-04-27T19:33:00.000+01:002009-04-27T19:33:00.000+01:00Dave, I've been meaning to drop in for a while, an...Dave, I've been meaning to drop in for a while, and when I do this poem greets me - talk about taking the top of your head off. Phew, this is intense work. The repetition and the growing line lengths really add to the tension you've created. It's not an easy subject to take on, but I think you've found a good way into it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06280161801824435219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-34741278736431728512009-04-27T18:53:00.000+01:002009-04-27T18:53:00.000+01:00HelenThanks for that feedback. Much appreciated.<B>Helen</B>Thanks for that feedback. Much appreciated.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-4266803435900817422009-04-27T18:52:00.000+01:002009-04-27T18:52:00.000+01:00Jinksy Precisely. If only...
Watermaid I wasn't e...<B>Jinksy </B>Precisely. If only...<br /><br /><B>Watermaid </B>I wasn't expressing disagreement. You are correct, I did find it even handed and still do. I should have explained myself more fully. I am not sure what you were getting at. "It didn't finish the sentence at the end of the first paragraph, which should have been 'more than just one voice needs to be heard'." I do not see the unfinished sentence. <br /><br /><B>A Cuban in London </B>I think you are saying that an artist does not <B>have</B> to concern himself with current political and social issues, which is no doubt true, but unless he is to live and work somewhere other than the present he is bound to be affected by them. They will impinge upon him and that effect will show in his work.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-13366149684357175722009-04-27T18:24:00.000+01:002009-04-27T18:24:00.000+01:00Hello Dave, I read your text and followed with the...Hello Dave, I read your text and followed with the video ... in either medium this is extremely powerful and thought provoking.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16619199535376925989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-19825944445765442412009-04-27T12:03:00.000+01:002009-04-27T12:03:00.000+01:00I have followed the 'controversy' (why do they lik...I have followed the 'controversy' (why do they like complicating things so much? It's not controversial, it's called 'art', for Christ' sake!) very closely because it goes to the heart of how art should relate to current social and political issues, or if it should relate to them, period. I think that the artist, if he/she is intelligent enough, can make a powerful contribution to a relevant without taking away the full political or social impact. What the artist has not got is an obligation to do so and sometimes it feels to me like they do. Many thanks for the text, dave, it is very moving in ways that I cannot describe.<br /><br />Greetings from London.A Cuban In Londonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423293358605007539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-30479442458054714602009-04-27T11:44:00.000+01:002009-04-27T11:44:00.000+01:00Dave, what are you not sure about...come on now, d...Dave, what are you not sure about...come on now, don't be evasive. Your initial reaction to the play was pretty much the same as mine...you thought at first it was taking one side and then the other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-37219093048896345642009-04-27T11:15:00.000+01:002009-04-27T11:15:00.000+01:00If only more people could learn to live and let li...If only more people could learn to live and let live - nobody 'owns' the Earth, when all is said and done...Jinksyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01686101468214361004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-57129041748694723972009-04-27T09:23:00.000+01:002009-04-27T09:23:00.000+01:00Stephen Good point, excellently well made.
Barry ...<B>Stephen </B>Good point, excellently well made.<br /><br /><B>Barry </B>Yeah, I can't imagine anything much tougher.<br /><br /><B>Lakeviewer </B>That is the great sadness of it, I agree.<br /><br /><B>The Thing We Carried </B>I want to read it again, but haven't been able to bring myself to do so yet.<br /><br /><B>Ronda </B>It's probably the bit I felt I could most relate to.<br /><br /><B>The Weaver of Grass </B>Yes, I'd go along with all that. Basically we - us and our allies - created this problem, one that should not have been too difficult to foresee.<br /><br /><B>Mann Fan </B>The key word there is "sympathetic", I think. It is difficult to shed light on a situation such as this without appearing partisan, at least to a partisan.<br /><br /><B>Lizzy </B>Thanks for your comment. No disagreements, there. I shall certainly have a look at the meme. Thanks for that, too.<br /><br /><B>Poetic Artist </B>Thanks for the feedback.<br /><br /><B>Stephen </B>I didn't feel that it was anti-anything, except entrenched attitudes.<br /><br /><B>acornmoon </B>Many thanks for that rather comprehansive and very sensitive reflection on what I must admit I thought would be a controversial posting - though that was not the reason for it being posted. I have not yet reread it, but even on first reading I felt first of all that it was taking this side and then the other.<br /><br /><B>Adrian </B>Thanks<br /><br /><B>Watermaid </B>MMMMMM... not sure.<br /><br /><B>Tommaso </B>Thanks - as, I am sure, we all were.<br /><br /><B>Sarah </B>Many thanks for that useful feedback.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-58502417349661267252009-04-27T00:00:00.000+01:002009-04-27T00:00:00.000+01:00I haven’t heard of this play – thanks for telling ...I haven’t heard of this play – thanks for telling us about it. Thanks for sharing your creative process with us too. This poem isn’t as lyrical due to the repetition, but it has a strong message. These aren’t easy times we live in.Sarah Laurencehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423008641739156182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-38093653107171744532009-04-26T18:57:00.000+01:002009-04-26T18:57:00.000+01:00Dear Dave, your blog is enriched and straight like...Dear Dave, your blog is enriched and straight like a thunderbolt with works like this poem ( or dramatic monologue ). I was so saddened and outraged by the bombings on Gaza...<br />Best wishes, Davide<br />(Tommaso)Tommaso Gervasuttihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17137499390434949734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-5974860157222126872009-04-26T17:06:00.000+01:002009-04-26T17:06:00.000+01:00It didn't finish the sentence at the end of the fi...It didn't finish the sentence at the end of the first paragraph, which should have been 'more than just one voice needs to be heard'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-64398188842321118832009-04-26T17:05:00.000+01:002009-04-26T17:05:00.000+01:00Powerful Dave!Powerful Dave!LR Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01634383283728817474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-40209601850188181492009-04-26T17:02:00.000+01:002009-04-26T17:02:00.000+01:00Caryl Churchill is a fine dramatist. The first tim...Caryl Churchill is a fine dramatist. The first time I heard it read on the Guardian site, I thought it was pro-Jewish; the second time, the reverse. To really appreciate the nuances and realise that this is not just one, but several points of view, reflecting the dilemma of the ordinary people caught up in the situation, especially when it comes to what to tell the children. <br /><br />"...tell her I look at one of their children covered in<br />blood and what do I feel? tell her all I feel is happy it’s not her.<br />Don’t tell her that.<br />Tell her we love her.<br />Don’t frighten her."<br /><br />What mother wouldn't be glad that it wasn't her own child. This, however, is just one voice; another speaks of love. 'Don't tell her that' and 'Don't frighten her' is repeated like an incantation. The writer of the article in the Guardian is right in saying that Caryl Churchill has an opinion ( we all do) but I see no evidence of anti-Semitism. I also think drama is the best (better than the novel, poetry or even film) way of presenting a political controversy because we just have the voices. It is the selection made by the dramatist, and the fact that she focussed on Jews rather than Palestinians, that has been found offensive by some. If history finds those in charge of the bombing of Gaza guilty of war crimes, the appalling events of WWII are no defence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-70870980783099332832009-04-26T15:48:00.000+01:002009-04-26T15:48:00.000+01:00Stirring stuff, it is hard to imagine, easier not ...Stirring stuff, it is hard to imagine, easier not too I suppose. Thank you for making us at least think about it.Acornmoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14982884920388966786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-38169000658545609822009-04-26T15:11:00.000+01:002009-04-26T15:11:00.000+01:00Seven Jewish Children is anti-Semitism masked as a...Seven Jewish Children is anti-Semitism masked as anti-Zionism. They are the same as they advocate for the destruction of the Jewish people.Stephen M. Flatowhttp://www.victimsvoice.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-7265914052389677052009-04-26T03:59:00.000+01:002009-04-26T03:59:00.000+01:00How strong and how sad. Thank you for your abilit...How strong and how sad. Thank you for your ability to open our eyes and see the visions by only reading your words. KatelenPoetic Artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245636615707851354noreply@blogger.com