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As for categorizing individual artists, some authorities categorize Rousseau as a Primitive, others as a naive artist. I personally do not know where to put Blake - some have him as a primitive.<BR/>Your food art primitivism sounds intriguing.<BR/>I will definitely have to have another go at this!Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-56782928187520872802008-05-03T11:17:00.000+01:002008-05-03T11:17:00.000+01:00I enjoyed the post as I know a fair number of cont...I enjoyed the post as I know a fair number of contemporary artists as friends, not sure how to categorize them and I leave that to the critics. <BR/><BR/>I also enjoy in my writing to build characters that fit the mold of wanna be artist but not quite make it into even mid-stream let alone mainstream. I do not so much think of them as Primitive as much as Formative toward some objective that they have as to how they imagine they fit themselves into the visual context. An exhibition of radish rabbits, rabbits made of radishes, food art that turns moldy over time, that sort of Primitivism is what I have in mind, and a subtle offshoot possibly to your categories?<BR/><BR/>I very much enjoy Henri Rousseau, and have for many decades drowned in Blake's poetry and graphics. I first ran across Blake in an exhibition of his work at Cornell University.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887517793752604788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-33109003642665687482008-05-01T12:05:00.000+01:002008-05-01T12:05:00.000+01:00Thanks for the link, Jim. Thanks also for the sugg...Thanks for the link, Jim. Thanks also for the suggestion. I am not sure that there are clear-cut distinctions to be made between the categories you suggest(which might make it a good topic to research, though maybe not to post), with various authorities defining them differently. Quite a few use Primitivism as an umbrella word beneath which they all shelter. I have from the beginning had in mind the possibility of a follow-up; there are a number of artists I had intended to include (Lowry was certainly one of them), but in the event, I am afraid, just indulged my preferences. I am also considering more on the prehistoric and non-Western traditions... it is a vast subject when you get into it. This was very much a water-testing exercise, so the comments are particularly welcome.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-45041829363917124052008-04-30T15:44:00.000+01:002008-04-30T15:44:00.000+01:00When I had a look at Alfred Wallis' paintings the ...When I had a look at Alfred Wallis' paintings the first artist I thought of was Lowry. I see from Wikipedia that he studied at the Manchester Municipal College of Art and subsequently the Salford School of Art but you did include Spencer who also had some formal training. I've seen his work described as Naïve art and also as quasi-primitivism. <BR/><BR/>There's a nice selection of John Caple's art to be found on <A HREF="http://www.jmlondon.com/pages/eventthumbnails/67.html" REL="nofollow">JM London's webpage</A> by the way.<BR/><BR/>Maybe you want to think of a follow-up to this post explaining the differences between Outsider Art, Folk art, Naïve art and Primitivism.Jim Murdochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786388638146471193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-77667926785547812612008-04-30T09:17:00.000+01:002008-04-30T09:17:00.000+01:00Thanks Kathy,Yes, Aboriginal work is one form of P...Thanks Kathy,<BR/>Yes, Aboriginal work is one form of Primitivism - the original "Primitive" art, I suppose, but that word now has pejorative connotations, which may be why the various forms have all become subsumed under the banner of Primitivism. Actually, when used of the indigenous races, both words are misnomers, reflecting an ignorance of the culture.<BR/>I had intended to write more - to include Grandma Moses, and to look at Maori, Aboriginal and African art, but I thought the post was long enough. Perhaps another time...?Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2508563923634392703.post-74666801779462130762008-04-29T22:44:00.000+01:002008-04-29T22:44:00.000+01:00Fascinating, Dave. I'd always assumed primitivism ...Fascinating, Dave. I'd always assumed primitivism was more like the aboriginal work (Castle's)than Rousseau. <BR/>I love seeing the examples. Lovely blog.Kathy McIntoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899118869240481737noreply@blogger.com